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post Dec 25 2012, 03:53 AM
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No matter what settings I try, the labels want to print on the left side of the page, even though I select the correct paper stock to print in the center. I never experienced problems with Nero CoverDesign until I upgraded to v12. The "User's Guide" includes no help for this print setup. I just want to print up one label.

Below are the steps I tried. If any wizard has managed to get around Nero's fuzzy engineering, maybe he or she can share the secret. I apologize for my attitude, but I just spent an fruitless hour on the project. Technology should make things easier, not laborious and obfuscating.

1. Take a deep breath.
2. File -> New Cover from Picture.
3. Browse to and double-click on the image.
4. Select "Standard" in left pane.
5. Video tab -> Empty Document -> OK.

NOTE: Ignore the single page.

6. Disc 1 (lower left of screen).
7. Insert photo quality paper in your printer.
8. File -> Print Setup -> select printer from drop-down menu.
9. Properties -> Features tab.
10. From "Paper type" drop-down menu, select "More" ->
choose type of paper used -> OK.
11. Print quality: Best -> Portrait.
12. Select print in color or grayscale.
13. Check "Show preview before printing -> OK.
14. Paper size: 8.5x11 -> OK.

NOTE: Letter: 8.5" (215.9 mm) x 11.0" (279.4 mm)
A4: 11.7" (210.0 mm) x 8.3" (297.3 mm)

15. File -> Paper Stocks -> select stock used: e.g.
expand "Neato CD Labels 2UP (Letter)" -> select
upper or lower "Disc."

NOTE: Standard disc outer radius: 59.131 mm; inner
radius: 20.447 mm.

16. Accept default "Position (X/Y)" 48.819 mm/144.475mm,
which figures indicate location of label in bottom
half of the Neato paper.
17. OK.
18. File -> Print -> Properties tab -> select following:

~ Print Borders: Never
~ Print Crop Marks: (Optional)
~ Enable Bleeding: 2.000 mm
~ Copies: 1

19. Preview -> Next Page (should show the front and back
on one page).
20. Elements tab -> uncheck all but "Disc 1."

DESPITE THE TWO LABELS APPEARING CENTERED IN PREVIEW (STEP 15),
WHERE I CHOOSE "NEATO CD LABELS 2UP (LETTER)," THE PRINT PREVIEW
IN STEP 19 SHOWS THE LABEL ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAGE, WHERE
IT PRINTS.

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post Dec 25 2012, 04:47 AM
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First, is the paper stock you're selecting the correct one for your printer?

I don't have a printer attached to this computer so I don't have all of the settings you do. When I select Preview, the image is centered. If I select Next Page, the images are on the left side. Ditto if I go to the Next Page.

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post Dec 25 2012, 06:22 AM
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I have a HP F4480 printer that prints the covers OK but not the disc labels.

You describe the same problem I'm experiencing: the paper stock preview in Nero shows the two labels centered for "Neato CD labels 2UP (letter)"; but despite selecting this stock, the print preview--in Nero--shows that the labels will be printed off-center.

Unless we are overlooking something, Nero CoverDesigner simply cannot print disc labels, only box covers. That would be unforgivable (software designers smoking weed?). The procedure for what used to be a simple operation has been turned into something akin to a MENSA entrance exam. I have a Ph.D., which is a disadvantage; since I depend so heavily on logic; when it's absent, I'm lost. I need to find a five year-old child to me with this needless challenge. Hopefully someone will be able to help; otherwise goodbye Nero.

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post Dec 25 2012, 09:03 AM
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Hi Synapse,

Is it possible to upload some pictures displaying the problem?

You are welcome to contact tech support on this problem via techsupport@nero.com.

Best regards,
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post Dec 25 2012, 05:45 PM
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The three attached images show the inconsistency. Apparently Nero does not support selection of the paper stock that it lists.


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post Dec 25 2012, 06:39 PM
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I'm on my system with a printer (HP D7300). I did most of what you did except I used the default printer setup.

In the Print preview, I get the shots provided. If I have the first page up and I select, Print, the output is identical to the screenshots.

I don't know what kind of label paper I'm supposed to use. They provided one sheet with the printer but I don't know what type it is. Some time ago I tried to find out but HP doesn't sell label paper and doesn't specify what to use.

Note that you can create a custom template to make it fit on the paper you might have.


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post Dec 26 2012, 02:18 AM
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Sorry to highlight this, in you original post you quote

NOTE: Letter: 8.5" (215.9 mm) x 11.0" (279.4 mm)
A4: 11.7" (210.0 mm) x 8.3" (297.3 mm)


These measurement seem incorrect, I am sure with your qualification you should know that 1" is 2.54 cms. Thus 11.7" would be 27.93 cms or 279.3 mm. I am not into 'Letter' sizes, so I would take it that the length of a LETTER sheet is similar to an A4 but the width would be different.

Also is it possible that the paper stock has to set in Nero Cover Design, for the layout and also has to set in the Printer parameter. ( I am afraid I got lost in your original post ).

Comparing your images to that of wither I am curious as to why you have 3 disc images displayed, but wither display has what I would expect. So is it possible that you have select the PAPER STOCK for each part of disc labeling.


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Just viewed a web-page about paper and noted that LETTER is quoted a W x L, whereas A4 is quoted as L x W. So I hope you were not insulted about my reference to your qualifcation.



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post Dec 26 2012, 09:35 PM
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Oops, I did get the W x L measurements back to front. But since I did not use the custom option, that shouldn't have mattered as I entered no parameters. I did try the "User-defined stock," but the print is always the same, the disc labels are always placed on the left side of the page, even if I use my printer's default settings.

Wither, I don't think you are using v12 of Nero's CoverDesigner. As I mentioned, I had no difficulty printing labels with earlier versions.

To print the label, I installed my old copy of Click'n Design, v4.7.8, from 2001, and printed up the disc labels without any difficulty. So the printer is not the problem.

retoploughman, thank you also for responding. In my posting of the images, the first is one of paper stock selection, the second is one of the print preview, and the third is the required selection of the "elements" because without this setting, Nero will send a command to print a CD Booklet and CD inlay in addition to the Disc label to the printer. Seems like even computer technology is going the way of socialism, becoming more and more dictatorial.

If someone with Nero v12 can't help me, I guess I'll just have to stick with older, more stable software.

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post Dec 26 2012, 11:39 PM
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I do not know about wither, but I have recently used the FREE APPLICATION, NCD, just to print a disc cover label.

All did was to use the paper stock for my label sheet and printed it. Job OK,

But there were associated pages which required to be printed as I had used DEFAULT DVD label selection. I just canceled the printing to overcome this.

My setup involved an Epson R365 printer.

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post Dec 27 2012, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE (Synapse @ Dec 26 2012, 09:35 PM) *
If someone with Nero v12 can't help me, I guess I'll just have to stick with older, more stable software.


Hi Synapse,
I did some tests on V12, all is ok!
I have an Epson printer, and I agree: the problem is not in the printer.

In the screenshot of your post you are showing the "Neato" paper (left picture), but when you print you are using a "Normal" paper type, and then the position of the disc on the paper is meaningless.

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I think that this is the reason of the problem. Isn't it?

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post Dec 27 2012, 04:28 AM
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Neither one of us know which label paper should be used with our HP printers. I suspect it is an Avery paper. The printouts I did were with normal paper and they reflect exactly what's shown in CoverDesigner, as expected.

In the absence of knowing what is the correct paper, one would have to create a custom template for the paper being used which, of course, can be used over and over.

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post Dec 27 2012, 11:13 AM
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I may be confused here but the paper stock is the layout for the manner on which the items ore to be printed. That is the CD/DVD Neato paper stock shows the position the printing will be done.

Paper would define whether it is MATT or GLOSS.

As you are using Neato 2Up Template layout the label should be printed to that TEMPLATE.

The other parts will be printed on a plain sheets of paper, as they have not been defined by paper stock.

With my Epson printer I have the facility to print on a CD/DVD and this is defined in the Properties for the Printer. Also here it defines the TYPE of paper, MATT/GLOSS/SEMI GLOSS.





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