First Coasters in Many Years

[WBMcCarty]

I'm a Nero user for many years and just created my first coasters using Nero. I had about 5 failures in a row using two different DVD-RW drives. Thing is, even though Nero signaled a failed burn, I am able to see and copy the files from the last DVD I created. Neither do I spot the problem in the log file. So, I'm totally puzzled. I'm using Verbatim media, which has always worked well for me, at half rated speed. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks,





Windows 7 6.1
AMD64
Wow64Process
WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 9.4.44.100
Internal Version: 9, 4, 44, 100

Recorder: <Optiarc DVD RW AD-7540A> Version: 1.D3 - HA 1 TA 5 - 9.4.44.100
Adapter driver: <USB 2.0> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data
CD-ROM: <MagicISO Virtual DVD-ROM >Version: 1.0A - HA 1 TA 1 - 9.4.44.100
Adapter driver: <SCSI> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
MagicISO Virtual DVD-ROM G: CdRom1
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7260S D: CdRom3
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7540A F: CdRom5
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 4095MB (4194303kB)
Free physical memory: 3814MB (3906404kB)
Memory in use : 50 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

18.6.2012
ISO compilation
1:54:05 AM #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 433
LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

1:54:06 AM #2 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 7014
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

1:54:06 AM #3 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3327
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

1:54:06 AM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3649
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

1:54:06 AM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 313
Last possible write address on media: 2298495
Last address to be written: 1670415

1:54:06 AM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 325
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

1:54:06 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2845
Recorder: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7540A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer ID: <MCC 03> <RG20 >
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

1:54:06 AM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 500
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

1:54:06 AM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 739
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1670416 (1670416) = #1670416/371:12.16
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1670416 blocks [F: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7540A]
--------------------------------------------------------------

1:54:06 AM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 941
Prepare [F: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7540A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3421011968, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
___Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_____Size_|______NWA_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 1670416 | 0 | 0x00
1670416 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

1:54:06 AM #11 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 220
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

1:54:06 AM #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4479
Caching options: cache CDRom or Network-Yes, small files-No (<64KB)

1:54:06 AM #13 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1802
Caching of files started

1:54:06 AM #14 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4601
Cache writing successful.

1:54:06 AM #15 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1802
Caching of files completed

1:54:06 AM #16 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1802
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

1:54:06 AM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2695
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

1:54:06 AM #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3292
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

1:54:06 AM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3446
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

1:54:06 AM #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10281
---- Disc Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Transfer Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
Outer Limit of Data Recordable Area: 26127F h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Revision number of maximum recording speed: 6.0
Revision number of minimum recording speed: -
Revision number table of recording speed: 1.0 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 - -
Class: 0, Extended part version: 33
Start PSN of the Extra Border Zone: 2FE10 h
Start PSN of Physical format information blocks in Extra Border Zone: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..783]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0

1:54:06 AM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3584
Reserved Track size: 1670416 (197D10h, 3262MB) -> return code 0

1:54:06 AM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 273
Pipe memory size 83836800

1:54:07 AM #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1271
: Queue again later
- 01:54:07.187

2:07:28 AM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3851
EndDAO: Last written address was 398687 (6155Fh)

2:07:28 AM #25 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 1452
SetDriveCaps: Set LAST LBA of layer 1 to 0

2:07:28 AM #26 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1802
Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

2:07:28 AM #27 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 270
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

2:07:28 AM #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11601
DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed

2:07:33 AM #29 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 433
UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL


Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon

[wither]

Try burning at 4x. There's no errors that normally come with burning at too high write speed and there's no errors that suggest problems with the discs. Most DVD's are rated for 1-4x although some burners seem to be able to get around that.

Does that work?

[WBMcCarty]

Thanks, Wither, but nope. tried that already. In fact, I eventually tried whatever speed was the lowest possible. :(

Thanks for confirming that I'm not missing the obvious on the log file, too.

But, again, I CAN read the files, at least on the latest media. SOMETHING is happening after the disc is finalized, it seems to me. That I would have the same problem on two drives, one internal and one USB external, makes me even crazier!

[WBMcCarty]

I ran a DiscSpeed Disc Quality test and obtained the following results, which I don't really know how to interpret with confidence. The overall quality score was 98, which sounds good, presuming 100 is the maximum good value.

General Information
Drive: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7260S
Firmware: 1.03
Disc: DVD-R (MCC 03RG20 )
Selected speed: 8 X
Recorder information
Drive: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7260S
Firmware: 1.03
Write speed: 10 X
PI Errors
Maximum: 285
Average: 77.84
Total: 1397397
PI failures
Maximum: 4
Average: 0.00
Total: 144
PO failures: -
Jitter: -
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 10:13
Number of samples: 17912
Average scanning interval: 8.02 ECC
Glitches removed: 0

[wither]

I was going to ask you to run discspeed if the 4x didn't work. The tests I usually ask people to run are the Benchmark (to find the optimal burn speed) and the Create Disc (to see if you get any errors). Could you try that?

Do you have disc verification turned on?

The thing that bothers me is that it quit writing at 398... when it was supposed to quit writing at 167...

[BeemerBiker]

Every now and then one can get a bad batch. I bought a pack of 20 blu ray disks and every single one I tried failed to work. I returned them to Fry's and got full refund. Another box from the same manufacturer worked fine. I recall trying 3 different burners and every one rejected the disk. ie: there were no coaster as I never even got far enough to write on them. Another time I bought some LTH blu rays because there were cheap and seemed to work. Later, I updated an LG BD590 player to new firmware and none of those LTH type blu-rays I had burned worked any more.

Is is possible the disk is overheating. Is it hot to the touch when you eject the coaster?

[wither]

Generally, when a LTH or HTL disc doesn't work, you have to get a newer driver or firmware from the manufacturer. There are a number of threads on this.

[BeemerBiker]

Generally, when a LTH or HTL disc doesn't work, you have to get a newer driver or firmware from the manufacturer. There are a number of threads on this.

I know that. I even complained to LG about not being able to play LTH anymore and they wrote the following back (note their misspelling of Low To High = LTH)



Joseph,

Thank you for emailing LG Electronics. I will be happy to assist you today.
You are correct you will not be able to play the LHT BD-R on this player.
We do not have an upgrade to allow the playback to the LHT.
Have a great day!

Should you have any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us again either via email, or by calling our customer service division at 800-243-0000 at your convenience.
Best Regards,
B Maroney

This post has been edited by BeemerBiker: Jun 24 2012, 07:26 PM

[wither]

Thing is, you said LTH seemed to work. They're telling you to use the HTLs (if you can find them) or get a different drive. I guess LG/Hitachi don't want to accomodate anybody or maybe it's not possible to make the drive conform to LTH.

[BeemerBiker]

Thing is, you said LTH seemed to work. They're telling you to use the HTLs (if you can find them) or get a different drive. I guess LG/Hitachi don't want to accomodate anybody or maybe it's not possible to make the drive conform to LTH.

Yea - I had played some LTH blu ray on my LG set top box but after a firmware upgrade they would not play anymore. AFAIK, the default method to create BD-R is the High To Low method. The Low To High using dye is cheaper. I had not heard of HTL before you mentioned it. Movies are not distributed on LTH BluRay disks and never will be. People like me backup movies onto cheap disks for playing. RIAA does not like that and probably leaned on LG to prevent their set top players from playing movies written on LTH disks but that is just a guess.

I am more careful now on upgrading firmware on set top players. I let someone else find out if the new firmware release has Cinavia and their backup movies no longer play. That way I know not to upgrade the firmware on my settop player. Firmware release version info will NOT tell you if new copyprotection is included. That is a requirement from RIAA to license their movies. OEM had to sign off on the license that they would not inform buyers as to whether they had protection enabled or disabled or whether or not it is even in the player or not. Clearly any vendor advertising that their player had a better protection mechanism would go to the bottom of any review recommendation.

"Caution: This player contains Cinavia and is also incapable of playing any LTH disks" is not something to advertize on a new BluRay player.

Likewise I don't expect to see "Caution: This recorder cannot burn at 1x speed because the laser intensity may cause the disk to catch on fire". So I had asked in another thread about whether Nero could burn at slow speeds or not.