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post Apr 20 2012, 02:28 AM
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Congratulations, - but rejoice not to early.

You have a small HDD (75 Go) with 2 partitions B:\ (assumed for data) and C:\ (Géré par le système). Although I don't know exactly the used and free space on both I can say that the situation you have now will remain furthermore. From the time you have successful created this DVD (5 month ago) until today (may be a lot of data (SW too ?) were stored on the C:\ partition.

Regardless of whether automatically or from time to time manually defragmented, you will have problems with the availability of free space furthermore. I therefore urgently suggest an external HDD on which at least all large media files (video and audio) should be outsourced, so that more disk space is available on C:\. The settings for VM are correct, there is nothing to change.

Until then you can you help, if you do a defragmentation after some NV processes, as I've described above.

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post Apr 20 2012, 06:04 AM
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So obviously I tried encoding a version of "lively" and that failed.
(See Log 9)

@ hg-dude: I'm not a hard disk of 75 GB but 500 GB

I just made space on the B :/ There were 66 GB Now there are 191 GB
(see attachment)

Attention, the DVD has not been in existence for less than 5. This connection of the films that took me 5 months. The date of the DVD last week.

@ adrianob2: Instead of animating the main me naked. I think reducing animation time but we can't.
What songs?
I did not understand the last sentence.

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post Apr 20 2012, 11:13 AM
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I just tried with my score B :/ and it's still missed. (See Log 10)

It's not a question of space.

I will try to encode with the main menu and chapter menus and animated menus freeze bonuses.Annuler les modifications
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post Apr 20 2012, 12:20 PM
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500 Go !: Sorry, my mistake. It was the capazity of B:\ shown in the VM settings I took as base for my suggestions, so forget them. But it's always the same, if you don't have all the system data of the user from the beginning you met wrong decisions and are spending a lot of hours for nothing, - cumbersome !

Anyway, under these (for me) new conditions there are some possibilities too to improve your current situation.

At first to the VM settings which a little bit are confusing me. There must be other conditions the time the settings were initiated. The Allueé actuallement: 3'766 Mo and Recommandée: 5?649 Mo are to small and seem to be based on the smallest partition, in this case B:\. Curious too, that this partition is the primary partition, which normally should be C:\ (Géré par le système).

So the first you have to do is renaming B:\ to D:\ (e.g.) and let the system recalculate the VM settings. They should look than like mine because I have 4 Go RAM like you.But you should create additional partitions because defragmenting of this large C:\ lasts endless. Take a look to the screenshot of my VM settings. The partitions stated there exist when I got the laptop, except G:\ (with 100 Go) which I was adding than for my needs because the partitions D:\, E:\ and Q:\ are not for common use.
I suggest (based on this 500 Go's) either enlarging B:\ to, let's say, 100 Go and creating an additional partition of about 150 Go or creating 2 additional partions of about 150 Go. This would reduce the size of C:\ to 125 Go, which would be enough if this partition is not used for storing data.

But this doesn't mean that your problems are solved now completely (i hope so) because there may be some things arround which may cause conflicts as I mentioned above. But now we would have a clear base for further analisys as the fragmentation issue can be excluded.

Think now about my suggestions and let me know what you will do.

To your last reply, - of course it's "a question of space", but not only. Primarily it seems to be fragmentation (of B:\) shown by the multiple requests for determing the "Estimated Size" at the beginning of your last log. This relates to the first part of VM which is located on B:\.

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post Apr 20 2012, 12:53 PM
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This is the response of the Nero Support:

Hello Mr. X
Thank you for your email.

Thank you for log files and screen shots sent to illustrate very well what you do. yourself as you read it out in practice and the ability to take your project is 7.95 GB 7.95 GB diponible. it's just too much in my opinion. Because, by creating a project like AVCHD high quality must necessarily be room for these quality formats.

---- <Nero Vision Project Information> --------
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI --- Project type: AVCHD
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI --- Project video options ---
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Video mode: PAL
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Aspect ratio: 16:9
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Quality: Custom (6700 kbit / s)
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Resolution: 1920 x 1080
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Sample format: Automatic
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Video format: MPEG-4
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Audio format: Dolby Digital (AC-3) 2.0
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Encoding mode: Fast Encoding (1-Pass)
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI SmartEncoding: Automatic
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI --- Project space information ---
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Media type: DVD-9 (8540000000 bytes maximum capacity)
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Total space used: 7.95 out of 7.95 GB
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI --- Project contents ---
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Audio format: Dolby Digital (AC-3) 2.0
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Sample format: Automatic
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Encoding mode: Fast Encoding (1-Pass)
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI SmartEncoding: Automatic
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Number of titles: 9
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI 1. License to Wed Behind The Scenes (Movie, 1h 43m 12s, 3

We are of course available to any other information.
cordially
Nero Support

Uh a joke-it?
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post Apr 20 2012, 02:35 PM
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Be careful. They can only analize based on informations they have. As they have no knowledge of the now current conditions in your system their conclusion is absolutely correct. As I have mentioned before the content of your HD material is at the upper limit of the capacity of the medium. This may be the reason for the difficulties you have with the animated menus. I say, may be. But as mentioned in my last reply there can be other reasons. This can be claryfied only after reorganization of your drive.
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post Apr 20 2012, 02:44 PM
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Still a crash. In fact I saw all the menus and obviously, he returned to the main menu. It says "transcoding Main Menu" and then there is the error message.
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post Apr 20 2012, 03:15 PM
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I should have oncemore a screenshot of your VM settings. There is something not clear looking at the status of your partitions in your last screenshot. B:\ is now 309 Go with 191 Go free and C:\ is 156 Go with 27,4 Go free which is to small for the System partition. Also the occupied space (128 Go) seems to low for me if all SW should be on C:\ (OS, Nero and other). Do you have SW installed on B:\ ? If so, you must not be surprised about the problems you have. The conflicts are preprogrammed in this case.

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post Apr 20 2012, 03:40 PM
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I moved files to increase the size of C :/

I had moved the Temp folder on the B :/ space for more.

I'll give it to the root of C :/ and I stimulus encoding.
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post Apr 20 2012, 03:51 PM
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I hate to keep harping about it but if you look at the last log, the last entry is the file You Have a Friend In Me.wma. I also noted that for every .wma, Nero says it doesn't recognize the file format.

Can you upload that file to hotfile.com and post the first link here?
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post Apr 20 2012, 04:26 PM
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You didn't answer my question about installation of SW on B:\. But now the question may be obsolete because I found another possible reason for your problems. The drive letter B is like A reserved for diskette units and are identified as those from the OS. They never should be used for other unit types (see Windows Help).

Under these circumstances I wonder that your system once was working properly since the B:\ partition was created. To come out of this dilema you should try now with renaming B:\ as suggested above. But if you have SW installed on B:\ than you have to install the SW completely new on C:\.

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post Apr 20 2012, 05:28 PM
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You've Got...

Here is the link to download music.
But I do not understand how it would be a problem. I made a AVCHD last year with the same menus and therefore the same music without problem.
I made the DVD without problem last week.
It's strange, no?

1) I installed Nero on C :/
2) I have used for the B :/ Temp folder
3) the successful AVCHD with menus has been fixed with the Temp folder in the B :/

I think this is not the right "road"



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post Apr 20 2012, 07:03 PM
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Hi Aliannette
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What songs?

Start Transcodage Menu principal en cours
SourceBuilder: building cached c:\Users\Alien\Desktop\AVCHD\Menu\01 You've Got a Friend in Me.wma audio/0
Start Transcodage Menu des chapitres (Permis de Mariage Making Of)
SourceBuilder: building cached c:\Users\Alien\Desktop\AVCHD\Menu\Fight modifie.wma audio/0
Start Transcodage Menu des chapitres (Permis de Mariage Making Of) 2
SourceBuilder: building cached c:\Users\Alien\Desktop\AVCHD\Menu\Fight modifie.wma audio/0
Start Transcodage Menu des chapitres (Permis de Mariage Making Of) 3
SourceBuilder: building cached c:\Users\Alien\Desktop\AVCHD\Menu\Fight modifie.wma audio/0
Start Transcodage Menu des chapitres (Permis de Mariage Making Of) 4
SourceBuilder: building cached c:\Users\Alien\Desktop\AVCHD\Menu\Fight modifie.wma audio/0
Start Transcodage Bonus
SourceBuilder: building cached c:\Users\Alien\Desktop\AVCHD\Menu\01 The Scientific Method.wma audio/0
ExpressUI Start Transcodage Scènes coupées en cours
SourceBuilder: building cached c:\Users\Alien\Desktop\AVCHD\Menu\01 The Scientific Method.wma audio/0
Start Transcodage Photos
SourceBuilder: building cached c:\Users\Alien\Desktop\AVCHD\Menu\01 The Scientific Method.wma audio/0
Start Transcodage Crédits
SourceBuilder: building cached c:\Users\Alien\Desktop\AVCHD\Menu\01 The Scientific Method.wma audio/0

for all the audio items above Vision repeats the same error
SourceBuilder: unable to use cache: 0x80040216 -

and those are the songs that I suggested to take away

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I did not understand the last sentence.

Because you had little free space on C:\ I suggested a possible method to obtain some more. Forget it.

After the errors above Visions give a sersies of warn:
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WARN BD.BDMVClip - CBDMVClip::CreateClipInformationFile: detected menu clip with wrong application mode (Time Base Slide Show). Changed application mode to Browsable Slide Show.
I don't know if they're important.

About the T.S. mail:
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Quality: Custom (6700 kbit / s)
> [2:46:40 p.m.] ExpressUI Resolution: 1920 x 1080
I think that this value is not enought to have a good quality for 1920 x 1080 resolution
In fact in the successful log you can see
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ExpressUI --- Project space information ---
[17:17:17] ExpressUI Media type: DVD-9 (8540000000 bytes maximum capacity)
[17:17:17] ExpressUI Total space used: 7.58 out of 7.95 GB (Quality: Average)
[17:17:17] ExpressUI --- Project contents ---
[17:17:17] ExpressUI Audio format: Automatic
[17:17:17] ExpressUI Sample format: Automatic
[17:17:17] ExpressUI Encoding mode: Fast Encoding (1-Pass)
[17:17:17] ExpressUI SmartEncoding: Automatic
[17:17:17] ExpressUI Number of titles: 9
[17:17:17] ExpressUI 1. Permis de Mariage Making Of (Movie, 1h 43m 12s, 31 chapters)
[17:17:17] ExpressUI - Video mode: PAL
[17:17:17] ExpressUI - Aspect ratio: 16:9
[17:17:17] ExpressUI - Quality: Custom (7251 kbit/s)
[17:17:17] ExpressUI - Resolution: 720 x 576 (CCIR-601 D1)


Let me think some more about the problem.
Adriano
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post Apr 20 2012, 10:52 PM
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To your answers on my last questions. From the first view it seems ok. Do I understand correct, that at the time the DVD was created last year, the B:\ partition already exists ? i can't believe that, because this can not work properly as control of the process happens allways in the primary partition (there, where the SW is installed). But B:\ is your primary partition without SW installed there.

You can make a simple test as I suggested above. Create the same DVD like the DVD which is ok with importing this DVD in a new projekt with "Import Disk", create the same menu structur and use the same music files you used a year ago. This must work if the partition configuration is the same as a year ago.

From the occupied space on your partitions I think the drives are more or less fragmented. Did you once defrag as I suggested above ?

Furthermore is irretating me that the available space for C:\ shown in the last screenshot of the VM settings is the same as shown in the first screenshot for B:\. It seems system creates settings on criteria valid for the primary partition. This is curious and I would once try with renaming B:\ to D:\ if the test above fails.

Other ideas I don't have.

Sorry, but I am now at end of my latin because I can not exactly locate the source point of your problem resp. I got no confirmation for my suppositions. As your partition configuration is completely "exotic" and aganst all rules of system building I don't have experience with such a situation. May be others can help.

Bye

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post Apr 21 2012, 12:39 AM
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@ adrianob: you told me what I believe to be an AVCHD (ie 1080i) is actually a simple DVD (720x576)?
What's the point of making an AVCHD then?

@ hg-huge: I think you confuse a lot. I created a project last year (on DVD and AVCHD) with the same menus but not the same movies.
This year, I reuse the same menus but movies are changed. I managed to get the DVD but not AVCHD.

I will try tonight to encode the movie without the music.

Where did you saw that my score is B :/ principal? This is where C :/ Windows is installed and the software.
If I do not use the partition B :/. This is useful if I renames the D :/?

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QUOTE (Aliennette @ Apr 21 2012, 12:39 AM) *
@ adrianob: you told me what I believe to be an AVCHD (ie 1080i) is actually a simple DVD (720x576)?
What's the point of making an AVCHD then?

I saw this resolution in "Log_AVCHD_reussi" ans I was surprised, in "NeroVisionLog_5", for example, you had a resolution of 1920x1080. I don't know when the resolution has been changed. If you start your "reussi" project with Make AVCHD, then before of starting with new project you may have clicked on "More" button in main window and you selected TV standard in AVCHD tab. If you did this then new AVCHD project will have 720x576. You can check in "properities" window of the video file in ...\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM folder. Otherwise I can't imagine where you can obtain this resolution in AVCHD video.

But I don't think that resolution is the problem.

I've tried a little project with similar settings in Video 11 and I had errors too(e.g 0x80040207 ), but the burning ends successfuly. Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow I will try using Vision v10 on Vista O.S.
Let me know any news SVP.
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post Apr 21 2012, 02:34 AM
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I downloaded the audio file and paired it with a .wmv and exported it to file using the AVCHD\Blu-ray settings. The export log was full of errors, anything you can think of, including it doesn't recognize the format of the .wma and says I don't have the SID on a per-user basis. I think that's a codec issue. However, the exported file played just fine. I didn't try it in a menu. This was in NV 11 Platinum.

I think I'll get out of this thread. We've gone around and around on the same things I brought up many moons ago.

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post Apr 21 2012, 06:40 AM
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To start encoding without the music failed (see attached log 12)
So it's not a problem of music. And if the WMA is not supported (I do not believe), is that I can use the mp3?

I set the parameters automatically (see attached cies before, after) I redid the menus) but before I had made adjustments so that it's in 1080.
This is a problem for me to know that this is automatic in 720x576. If this is to create an AVCHD DVD quality, much as I do a DVD. I must leave with my old régalges.

I think I'll do a complete reinstallation of Windows.
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I don't think reinstalling Windows is going to do anything for you in regards to this problem.

The log is confusing because, early on, it says it doesn't recognize the video for like 4 of your clips and on one of them it says it doesn't recognize the audio. Later on, it's starts encoding the same files.

A long time ago, I asked you to cut your project in half (or less) and try a burn. I don't think you did that.

What I'd like you to do is create a small project without any menus. Just import 4 or 5 of your clips and use Export\Export to file using the AVCHD\Blu-ray profile. Does that work?



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QUOTE (Aliennette @ Apr 21 2012, 06:40 AM) *
To start encoding without the music failed (see attached log 12)
So it's not a problem of music. And if the WMA is not supported (I do not believe), is that I can use the mp3?

Yes you ca use MP3, but I agree with you, it's not the music.

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I set the parameters automatically (see attached cies before, after) I redid the menus) but before I had made adjustments so that it's in 1080.
This is a problem for me to know that this is automatic in 720x576. If this is to create an AVCHD DVD quality, much as I do a DVD. I must leave with my old régalges.

I think that you must set the AVCHD quality Before entering into the new project, if you wish that the standard (automatic) of AVCHD is 1980x1020. Try it.
If you have a project that was already made 720x576 it does not change regardless of the standard settings you make, and you must change it After you open the project.
(note that NeroVisionLog12 is 720x576.)

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I think I'll do a complete reinstallation of Windows.


If you are used to Update your O.S. (windows Update) or To Install/Remove software, you have a lot of space of your C:\ partition filled with backup files of O.S. checkpoint made at the beginning of each Update or Install/remove .
Before doing a complete reinstallation of windows try to clean up your O.S. drive. cleaning system files too, and System restore points. Verify free space of C: before and after this process.
I hope to be wrong, but I agree with wither: the main advantage of doing a fresh install of O.S. is to get more free space on C:\. But it's a long job, so I suggest to you of doing first the disc cleaning (with backup files of system configuration and shadow copies).
If instead you don't have many restore points, this may be useless, but it's fast...

bonne journée
Adriano

P.s. now it stops working just after the message "Start Transcodage Menu principal en cours..." at 4:54 in the morning then it advance a little more!

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